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  • As per this Staff Post, the ability to highlight threads on forums will be retired in favor of the new Discussions Announcement feature.

    This unfortunately means that, in order for us to continue using the highlighted topic feature to notify all users of important goings-on, we will have to enable Discussions.

    This also serves as what I can only imagine the first few rings of the bell that signals the inevitable death of Forums as a whole.

    Previously on Creepypasta Wiki Z: The Discussions Discussion Debate Debacle! - The Z-Fighters mostly supported the idea of enabling /d on the wiki so I will be using S:C to ask Staff to enable it this week...unless people seriously object to that.

    Please discuss this and do remember to stay on topic. Off-topic replies will be deleted and the user(s) warned.

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    • Getting real tired of your shit, wiki

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    • D. Compton Ambrose wrote:
      Getting real tired of your shit, wiki

      Why? Because of this?

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    • D. Compton Ambrose wrote: Getting real tired of your shit, wiki(a)

      Ahem, that's Fandom now.

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    • D. Compton Ambrose wrote:
      Getting real tired of your shit, wiki

      It will only get worse from here.

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    • LOLSKELETONS wrote:

      D. Compton Ambrose wrote:
      Getting real tired of your shit, wiki

      It will only get worse from here.

      I've been saying this since I became a member.

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    • LOLSKELETONS wrote:

      D. Compton Ambrose wrote:
      Getting real tired of your shit, wiki

      It will only get worse from here.

      Very true.

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    • Is this something the community can get past and learn to live with or is this a decline dipping us ever closer to oblivion? I'm seriously asking. Excuse my language. I guess I've gone kind of "method" due to the style of writing I've been practicing lately.ย :b

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    • Kolpik wrote:
      Is this something the community can get past and learn to live with or is this a decline dipping us ever closer to oblivion?

      I'd say decline. I already voiced my opinion this on this thread, but I'm going to use this post to elaborate.

      First off, FANDOM has become increasingly sensitive of what subsites allow in just the past year alone. On top of that there has been talk of tighter copyright restrictions a while back which could put a lot of this site's content on the line. It is only a matter of time before they start making more and more rules that make it impossible for authors to write good stories.

      Here are my predictions of some of the things FANDOM is going to do in the future (possibly this upcoming year).

      • Increase copyright restrictions so that anything with any kind of corporation copyright (i.e. lost episodes, game pastas, theories, anything that has the word "Nintendo" in it at all) will have to be deleted.
      • Enforce simplification which includes (but not limited to) getting rid of forums and replacing them with something similar to text-messaging (which all users can randomly say something even if it is unrelated to what everyone else is talking about), getting rid of things like Pasta of the Month, getting rid of anything besides articles and category pages (and possibly their image and video files), forcing a default skin that kills the mood, and possibly getting rid of user's walls and talk pages.
      • Put restrictions on violence, horror, and anything that can be deemed remotely offensive.
      • Enforce censorship of certain words.
      • Keep an eye on all FANDOM sites to make sure none of their rules are broken. Also breathing down this site's administrators' necks about their rules.


      As a lot of us have said before CPW should cosinder making their own site and moving away from FANDOM's tyranny.

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    • Thanks for the insight, NedWolfkin. This whole discussions business is depressing me.ย :(

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    • I agree 100%, should just move all the content to a new site. I'm sure it's going to be a pain in the A** but might be good in the long run.

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    • NoTimeCreepy wrote:
      I agree 100%, should just move all the content to a new site. I'm sure it's going to be a pain in the A** but might be good in the long run.

      It is slowly getting to the point where this site has to tilt to whatever FANDOM throws at it (the cause of this thread for example).

      With the right programmers a stand-alone site could have features impossible with FANDOM such as a built-in spellcheck.

      It is only a matter of time until FANDOM decides to impliment at least a few of the things I have predicted in my previous post. Because of their easily-offendedness they might start picking on this site the way they did the Trollpasta Wiki, which will inevitably end with them deleting this site, leaving its users to wait months (possibly years) before a stand-alone site can be constructed.

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    • NoTimeCreepy wrote:
      I agree 100%, should just move all the content to a new site. I'm sure it's going to be a pain in the A** but might be good in the long run.

      That would be ideal, but that costs money. A continuing supply of money.

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    • L0CKED334 wrote:

      NoTimeCreepy wrote:
      I agree 100%, should just move all the content to a new site. I'm sure it's going to be a pain in the A** but might be good in the long run.

      That would be ideal, but that costs money. A continuing supply of money.

      Unless you do like most sites do and put ads on it to help pay for it. Creepypasta.com has ads if I remember correctly. Maybe we can find someone that has a server.

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    • Hi, just a passerby. I noticed something I'd like to correct.

      "we will have to enable Discussions." - That's wrong. It's actually a separate system. Discussion Mods and Admins can access it here: https://creepypasta.wikia.com/announcements

      I honestly hate this decision, and was scared my main wiki would have to do the same. Though, I'd lobby my wiki to switch to using a Discord over Discussions.

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    • Jackboog21 wrote: Hi, just a passerby. I noticed something I'd like to correct.

      "we will have to enable Discussions." - That's wrong. It's actually a separate system. Discussion Mods and Admins can access it here: https://creepypasta.wikia.com/announcements

      I honestly hate this decision, and was scared my main wiki would have to do the same. Though, I'd lobby my wiki to switch to using a Discord over Discussions.

      Thank you very much for the info.

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    • While I agree with many of the concerns on this thread (though I do think a couple are a bit paranoid), there are two things that Fandom still brings to the table for us. One, its features are extremely user-friendly despite their many flaws, and two, more importantly, Fandom/Wikia has a built-in network of communities that not many other places could give us. Like it or not, we still benefit from the fact that we are just one of many Fandom sites and thus can get cross-traffic and new users from other wikis, as well as ask them for help with stuff.

      Many of our active members are active in other Fandom wikis and they only joined this wiki because it was another wiki they were interested in. If we created our own site, they would have to register new accounts just for that site, and I suspect many would not bother.

      There are also other wiki farms or other sites we could try like Reddit, but each of those has its own issues. For example, Wikidot is extremely customizeable and has almost no staff left so we wouldn't be harassed over petty shit. But on the downside, the lack of staff means we would be on our own if shit ever really hit the fan, the high level of customization comes at the price of you basically having to be an intermediate-level CSS wizard to set up anything, and there are basically no large wikis left on Wikidot besides SCP, meaning we'd be a completely isolated community unless we wanted to recruit from them, and good luck with that. On top of that, in my experience Wikidot's community and messaging features are far less conducive toward wiki community building than the features on Fandom.

      In the end I'd say once we get to the point where we need Fandom less than Fandom needs us, then we consider making a move. In the mean time I don't think there are many good options out there. We could try hitching onto Trollpasta Wiki's new site if and when they get it up and running, but if you haven't noticed they don't really like us very much.

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    • HopelessNightOwl wrote: While I agree with many of the concerns on this thread (though I do think a couple are a bit paranoid), there are two things that Fandom still brings to the table for us. One, its features are extremely user-friendly despite their many flaws, and two, more importantly, Fandom/Wikia has a built-in network of communities that not many other places could give us. Like it or not, we still benefit from the fact that we are just one of many Fandom sites and thus can get cross-traffic and new users from other wikis, as well as ask them for help with stuff.

      Many of our active members are active in other Fandom wikis and they only joined this wiki because it was another wiki they were interested in. If we created our own site, they would have to register new accounts just for that site, and I suspect many would not bother.

      There are also other wiki farms or other sites we could try like Reddit, but each of those has its own issues. For example, Wikidot is extremely customizeable and has almost no staff left so we wouldn't be harassed over petty shit. But on the downside, the lack of staff means we would be on our own if shit ever really hit the fan, the high level of customization comes at the price of you basically having to be an intermediate-level CSS wizard to set up anything, and there are basically no large wikis left on Wikidot besides SCP, meaning we'd be a completely isolated community unless we wanted to recruit from them, and good luck with that. On top of that, in my experience Wikidot's community and messaging features are far less conducive toward wiki community building than the features on Fandom.

      In the end I'd say once we get to the point where we need Fandom less than Fandom needs us, then we consider making a move. In the mean time I don't think there are many good options out there. We could try hitching onto Trollpasta Wiki's new site if and when they get it up and running, but if you haven't noticed they don't really like us very much.

      Agreed but do you think it might get worse.

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    • Yes, I very much think it might, but honestly I don't think the switch to Discussions is a sign of it getting worse. I think people are just on-edge over anything that brings us into contact with global staff, understandably so given the other stuff Ned mentioned.

      It also depends somewhat on how much Fandom decides it still needs us as a flagship wiki. We're still pretty big compared to a lot of other Wikia sites, but we don't generate near the traffic we used to for Fandom. And lately Fandom has been trying really hard to rebrand itself as a kind of mega-encyclopedia/community for people who are really into nerd culture and go to cons and vintage shops and stuff, and not just a place to make wikis. They may eventually decide that we don't fit into that puzzle and try to get us to leave.

      The first thing that would probably happen would be banning of all NSFW material. From there they might increasingly crack down on anything they deem too disturbing or violent like Ned said. And like he said, they might eventually target stories using existing corporate IPs, although they may not care unless and until one of the companies themselves takes issue.

      Those are the concerns I agree with. But getting rid of talk pages, getting rid of blogs and implementing a basic messaging system, forbidding PotM... I don't think any of that is going to happen. Fandom's "community" features/gimmicks are practically all it has going for it right now.

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    • I agree

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    • It's going to sound horrible, but I'm going to say it. Despite what I have said before, I think we should just do whatever FANDOM wants us to do. The Creepypasta fandom is near-dead and it will eventually get to the point where new Creepypasta writers will come and go in spurts. When we reach that point, it won't matter what the site looks like or how its mechanics work.

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    • Why?!

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    • try being apart of the youtube community. people back there were tearing each other apart

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    • Now i know why a lot of groups are migrating to discord servers

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    • This is why we need Discord!!! If someone is enabling Discussions, IM OUTTA HERE

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                    EDIT TWOย : HOW AM I GONNA WATCH JORDAN PERSEGATI WITHOUT CREEPYPASTA????
      
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    • Yeah guys we need Discord bad it would help out a lot.๐Ÿ˜‰

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    • NoTimeCreepy wrote:
      Yeah guys we need Discord bad it would help out a lot.๐Ÿ˜‰

      Yeah

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    • NoTimeCreepy wrote: Yeah guys we need Discord bad it would help out a lot.๐Ÿ˜‰

      Having a Discord channel in any official capacity would require a level of maturity I am unsure the general chat-goers possess.

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    • ClericofMadness wrote:

      NoTimeCreepy wrote: Yeah guys we need Discord bad it would help out a lot.๐Ÿ˜‰

      Having a Discord channel in any official capacity would require a level of maturity I am unsure the general chat-goers possess.

      lol

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    • What alternative sites do we even have that won't cost or overrun us with Ads? I love this site to see it go down the drain.

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    • Zed4711 wrote: What alternative sites do we even have that won't cost or overrun us with Ads? I love this site to see it go down the drain.

      Well if "ClericofMadness" could win the lottery, he could buy his own server.

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    • NoTimeCreepy wrote:

      Zed4711 wrote: What alternative sites do we even have that won't cost or overrun us with Ads? I love this site to see it go down the drain.

      Well if "ClericofMadness" could win the lottery, he could buy his own server.

      If only, ay?

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    • Migration is a lot more complicated than just affording a server, we could go with something like Miraheze if we really desperately felt a need to migrate, regardless of cost. IMO the key issue is that most of our audience just aren't likely to be interested in following us in the move, and the site would become a ghost of its former self. That's okay on its own, we don't need to be the most popular site on the internet, but if authors can't find us, it would be a shame for them to lose some of the resources we provide, and for those who are interested in Creepypasta & its history.

      For the foreseeable future, I don't personally think migration seems viable, until the point where FANDOM makes it infeasible for us to continue to serve up stories. We should focus on trying to make the best of this, discussions are trash, but they're not world-ending. Things like the Workshop and Showcase can continue.

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    • A FANDOM user
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