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- It's not so much the story or the face that terrifies me, as the fact that this was the best work that someone could do.Neo Bahamut (talk) 10:08, May 14, 2013 (UTC)
When I first read this I can honestly say yeah it was creepy, not the story just the damn picture. Still send a chill down my spine. Ive seen some horrible things but thats just creepy. To my original point, this has been used so much the "Scary Factor" is virtually non-exsistant.
-Semper Fi- 22:20, May 26, 2013 (UTC) saintmichael1226
I've never understood the appeal of this creepypasta; the story itself isn't particularly believable, the dialogue is forced and unrealistic (for a bunch of 13 year olds they have quite the vocabulary) and there's just a lack of depth in general (e.g. the way Jeff's brother is just sent off to juvie without any kind of investigation). Creepycrawly123 (talk) 22:04, June 3, 2013 (UTC)
PRETEXT: I come off as harsh and mean. But consider this as constructive criticism to become a better writer.
There are so many problems I have with this piece that I hardly know how to begin. But for the sake of the writer, who I can only assume was 12 at the time of creation, I won't go into excessive detail, and will only address the main focus of my frustrations.
- They're 12. They aren't that well-versed in the English language, and they don't carry guns and knives while they ride arround on their skatebords. If you want to make this story remotely, and I honestly mean that in the truest sense of the word, scary, then you need to change that completely. Also 12 year olds don't fight like Randy and Jeff.
- Pick your fucking tenses and stick with it. There's nothing that removes a reader more from a story than switching from past to present tense. "His mother walked over to him. He gets up and does something thats completely uncharacteristic of anyone his age." Just stick with one.
- Were you even trying to make it realistic? I mean I hate to do this, but I have to go into sub-points for this.
- Despite being covered in blood from stabbing someone in the arm Jeff was able to go to school and have a "wonderful" day.
- The police show up, and without any invistigation what so ever, with no trial and no court appearances they take it as their just duity to arrest jeff and send him to "JDC" (btw who calls it that?) but oh-wait, his younger brother shows up HOLDING A KNIFE showing cuts on his arms saying that he was the one who was in the fight and completely ignoring the fact that the wounds were self inflicted and not defensive what so ever, they take him instead.
- CHILDREN DONT HAVE GUNS.
- When you stop someones heart they don't gasp for air. And when three children run upstairs as the body of the fourth lay bloody and beaten on the ground the adults would not just stand still and wait for them to finish. While we're on the topic of upstairs, why the fuck did the kid have a lighter of all things.
- Finally, after murdering three people Jeff was allowed to just be in the hospital with no police near by what so ever. I mean sure, his little brother got sent to "JDC" because some people vaguely saw the two of them running, but hey murder ain't no thang.
And that's as far as I could go for reading.
Yeah, pretty much. This story is all-in-all not well-written and utterly unrealistic. There is simply too much disbelief to suspend, too many plotholes and obvious ignorance on behalf of the writer on how these "real life" things s/he's trying to portray work to make it even remotely believeable. Believeability is a big part of what makes a horror story scary.
Plus, the main character is unoriginal, boring and an obvious villian sue.
Crappy Story, Could Be a Cult Classic Movie
While it is a crappy story to read, I think this would make an absolutely fantastic movie from Troma entertainment.
Honestly though, reading this reminded me of playing a game as a young child and just making stuff up along the way. "I beat you up" "No way Billy, because now I have super strength" "Well I just set you on fire" "Well I don't have eyelids anymore so I can see non-stop" There should be a prequel story about Jeff's parents shopping for dress clothes. 22:28, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
- In favor of the prequel XD
Dude, this is trash.
Ok, so Jeff goes insane, so you try to kill him, despite the fact that he was only hurting himself? And Jeff attacked 3 people, and Liu goes to prison for it, so by killing somebody, Liu gets released and Jeff doesn't even have to go to jail? Not even a insane asylum? What the hell? Also, you can't punch someone in the heart. Its an internal organ, idiot. Killing them wasn't self defense, either, based off of the fact that you jumped on the first kid and punched him, only stopping when he was dead. The same goes with the two other kids. You waited for them to come, attacked them with a towel rack, and set them on fire. And that's only the tip of the iceberg. Nice try, though. Anti-Saix (talk) 17:46, June 19, 2013 (UTC)Anti-Saix
Trash this story, it is a piece of crap. Too long, too unrealistic, and seemingly written by a computerized 1st grader who has watched way too many R movies. KentheEagle (talk) 21:34, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
Just cause you're a 14 year old girl who doesnt have many life expireances yet I'll go easy on ya. I wont dis your taste even if its bad. No you cannot punch through the ribcage with a balled fist, you'll have to spend many many years studying martial arts to do it correctly, and as for the weapons part knives belivable if they were like swiss army knives, and as the guns no way in hell would i belive a 13 year old could get his hands on not just one but two, and they threaten adults who don't do anything. NavyGM92 (talk) 07:02, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, we know that it's a story. Do you think we're stupid enough to think that this piece of unrealistic crap is real? Listen, uhh... Kaila, right? How old are you? Oh... wait... I don't care. Older or not, I will kick you down...
1.) Are you familiar of the words "grammar" and "spelling"? Eh, wouldn't be surprised if you don't. You see, Ms. I-come-from-the-Underlands, I don't take people seriously when they spell "girl" as "gurl" and "weapons" as "wepons". I could list down more spelling errors, as well as some grammatical errors, but I'm not in the mood to write a novel.
2.) You say that you don't like "critisison" (I believe that this is supposed to be "criticism on") on your favorite stories? Well, I'm sorry-- but I believe that everyone has the right to speak up and let their opinions be heard, just like you let yours be heard. The world doesn't revolve around your opinions.
3.) You can't break someone's ribcage with just a few punches. Even with super strength, you can't break through someone's ribcage without breaking your wrist and/or hand in the process.
Don't worry, I also know about children holding weapons-- there are a lot of those here. Yes, they even get guns. Some even younger than 12. And I'd love to visit your Crafting and Knives store sometime~!
About the story: I have to admit, it had some potential. I just don't like the way it was delivered, and there were too many plot holes. The author has a lot of patching up to do. Maybe this could be improved with just a little... magic~!
The poor spelling and grammar is the fault of the story being poorly translated from Spanish to English, as I keep saying (and everyone keeps ignoring.) 13:40, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
Dude, I wasn't talking about the story's spelling and grammar issues. I was talking about DarkSkyBlueHill's. Didn't you analyze what I typed?
He he, sorry about my bad grammar. Sorry about this. Just, alot of people like Jeff, and I'm one of them. Sorry.
I don't get the hate
I personally like this pasta, i mean sure. it has it's flaws, but everypasta has flaws. alot of my pastas have flaws themselves. while unbelivable tell me this. is stories about a tall guy with tentacles coming out of his back, kidnapping kids, and murdering them belelivable? while poeple kidnapping kids and killing them is beliveable, the answer is obviously no. Creepypasta's are just stories. Realism makes them nice, but how creepy it is, is what should matter. Marshall Lee The Vampire King Of Aaa1 (talk) 03:12, July 4, 2013 (UTC)
The Idea is Creepy but The Back Story Sucks
I really like the whole...idea that is portrayed. I like the whole idea of Jeff the Killer, but the whole explanation of how he came to be is just ridiculous. I don't know the origin of it, but...It's literary quality is just sad. All the conversation is just forced. No one (especially kids) talk like that. The outlay of events was unrealistic. Cops do not decide what a child's sentence when they are arrested a court does. The emotional reactions are ridiculous as well. Why weren't his parents freaking out when their kid got arrested? I don't know. It makes no sense. Also I didn't understand the whole thing when the bullies jumped the fence of the party. How did they know he was there? Again I don't know. And really two punks pull out guns on adults so two kids can fight? It makes total sense. I don't truly understand how this became such a famous creepypasta when it is just...not good. If the backstory was re-written...and by re-written I mean completely changed I don't just mean re worded. Completely changed. No more known as it is now (I have some ideas of how it could be). It would be a so much better story. --Rockergrrl113 (talk) 01:58, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
I am very sorry to explane this, but most kids DO talk like that. When I was 11, I cursed with my friends and family. And the bullies would know he was there, Billy's party probably spead around the neighborhood, and who was going. The 2 kids didn't pull their guns on the adults, they pulled them on Jeff. Sorry, I may be annoying about this, but I just... what if I went on other people's favorite pastas and wrote mean things about theirs? Sorry, off topic. But otherwise, I like what you have to say. Thank you for your time! DarkSkyBlueHillsBloodRiver (talk)
Not what i meant by "talk like that." I cursed when i was 11 as well, but I meant the highly sophisticated language and the forced conversation. And also they pointed their guns on the adults. I mean I like the whole idea of Jeff the Killer, but i just don't like the wording and whole concept of how he came to be. Rockergrrl113 (talk) 17:55, July 25, 2013 (UTC)
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is he real
According to what I've heard, this was originally written in Spanish and translated (badly) into English, which would help explain its...odd grammar and wording. SLENDY, MY PEBBLES! (talk) 17:44, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
I will say this. This creepypasta is good, but it isn't that genuinely creepy. We don't know who the author is, so we don't know if any of the "sequels" are even real. I honestly prefer Funnymouth over this. I think what people are scared of is the picture, as it is very scary, but, it would be easy to photo-shop. What also gave it away, was the fact that this wasn't written like it was from a newspaper article, and someone that was in the house would've been the only ones to know the backstory. "GO TO SLEEP" is a creepy saying, I must admit. I'd give this creepypasta a 3/5 stars. DONTLOOKFORME (talk) 13:42, July 24, 2013 (UTC)Here's a video I made for this pasta:
All i have to say is...................Bullshit. yeah he maybe real. but i doubt it :p188.8.131.52 17:42, July 29, 2013 (UTC)Soul Eater Evans
It has pros and cons, but it's not bad,
I believe that this is a good scary story, but the thing is, I have to agree, it's not very realistic, kids that age don't have that brilliant sense in literature and story telling and english. However, I did like this story, for the largest reason, you were very descriptive about what happend, and you made a sudden pause before the stranger said,"go to sleep." Oh I LOVED that, and believe me, because I'm not even a TEENAGER yet! So I get it, yes, good story, just make the small child a little less good at english and the story he tells a little less adult and as if a four year old had told it, and either take out the childeren with knives OR, make them... a little... more cruel and bully-like or in a gang maybe. Good job on the rest of the story!184.108.40.206 22:02, July 31, 2013 (UTC)awesomeness12
Ok. Guys, PLEASE JUST CHILL OUT. This is a story, and I like it, so can we PLEASE NOT FIND EVERY PROBLEM. Every story has logical mistakes.
Ok. Guys, PLEASE JUST CHILL OUT. This is a story, and I like it, so can we PLEASE NOT FIND EVERY PROBLEM. Every story has logical mistakes. 220.127.116.11 11:03, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
Just my opinion.
Why hate? Why sit there and argue? Its just a story, a really great story. So lets just be happy that the story is out there and if you dont like it then why comment? And in my opinion this is my favorite creepypasta story along with Slenderman, The Rake, Lavender Town, Eyeless Jack and all the other ones. So no hate its just a story and dont waste your time arguing. And i am not a fangirl....well i am but im normal unlike other people. Just pointing that out.JeffTheKillerFan (talk) 17:37, August 2, 2013 (UTC)JeffTheKillerFan
Marshall, a tall man with tentacles is not realistic. But we don't base our opinion off of realism. Its just the fact that this is too unrealistic, because a bunch of parts of the pasta don't mix well when they should. If they did then more people would like it. Also. So there.Un-Digit (talk) 07:44, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
Hey, DarkSkyBlue, the pasta says he simply punched Randy in the heart. Once. Your instructions say to punch multiple times i.e at least twice. Jeff did not do that, so by your logic jeff couldn't possibly punch randy in the heart.Un-Digit (talk) 07:55, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
JeffKillerFan: "...and if you dont like it then why comment?"
Hear this: It's called a comment. When you comment, you share your own ideas and opinions about a certain subject... and not everyone likes this. And P.S. I love arguing. It helps me practice my debates.
18.104.22.168 12:18, August 3, 2013 (UTC)
22.214.171.124 20:36, August 5, 2013 (UTC)https://www.facebook.com/pages/Jeff-the-Killer/218964111591858
Too many people in this thread in a nutshell:
"STOP LIKING CREEPYPASTAS I DON'T LIKE!!!"
That is all.
Seriously, if this sort of assholery keeps up I'll have to archive this and start a whole new Talk page.
I curse this pasta...
This pasta has been read so much that any character that has ANY similar qualities, no matter how small, results in a deletion of that story. For the love of Slendy this pasta is probably responsible for the death of hundreds of perfectly decent pastas. Those are the only true victims of Jeff! It wasn't even THAT original of a concept.TheLongShadow (talk) 00:25, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
Let's just calm ourselves, now-
Personally, looking at all the plot holes that people keep pointing out (that I, unfortunately, seemed to have missed... more than a few times...), I think that some aspects of them could work, they were just poorly executed/justified.
For example, Randy and his goons with their guns. People keep saying how it wouldn't work, that kids their age wouldn't have guns. I think that it could be a plausible situation for young kids to get ahold of firearms, the circumstance would just be kind of unlikely (and probably on accident). A justifiable situation would be that Randy's father could store a pistol somewhere 'hidden' for self defense, or something of the like, and Randy gets ahold of it while he seeks ways to enact a sort of revenge on Jeff (either that, or to just intimidate him). I'm looking at this so much that Randy and his side-kicks get ahold of the guns through someone that already has them without their knowledge, not so much that they walked into a store and purchased them or something (which I think is how a lot of people are interpreting how it happened).
However, the inevitable lack of explanation as to how Randy and the others had possession of guns leads to the aspect of the story to be labeled a plot hole. Which, of course, is understandable (it's not like the author can really pull an "it's up to the reader's imagination!" bit...) :/
Same can go with the knives, too. I mean, anyone can just reach into a kitchen drawer and threaten someone with a knife- especially if they aren't really thinking and acting impusively.
Speaking of which, I noticed a lot of debate going on about the character's motives for doing what they did. I mean, when looking at Randy and his friends, we have to remember that they could very well just be very stupid. They could have this boss/"macho-I'm-so-cool" complex about them, and thus leads them to be overconfident and confrontational (and kind of bitchy when they get their asses kicked). This could also be connected with them jumping the gun a bit (no pun intended) in terms of how far they're willing to go to get revenge- Randy and his lackeys could have had no intention to actually use the guns (yes, I know the story says otherwise, but this is a hypothetical scenerio), and just use the firearms as an intimidation tactic aimed at Jeff. But of course, that goes heinously wrong and everything goes downhill-
The only thing I can't seem to justify are the ages- 12 and 13 are a bit young for that kind of violence/fighting to really take place like it was depicted. I think 14-15 would be a bit more of a realistic age, if the author wanted to retain some believability in the actions of the characters but still want them to come off as kind of young.
Also- in general, I see a lot of people (and I mean a lot) complaining about how other aspects of the story are just blatantly unrealistic, particularly how Jeff mutilates himself.
Now let's think about Hollywood here. There are plenty of things that happen in films and movies, regardless of genre, that can be dubbed as unrealistic. However, there are instances where we just give the story the benefit of the doubt. No one really has been bleached and burned at the same time, nor has anyone burned off their eyelids and cut a smile into their face (at least, I hope not), so it's difficult to say what would happen.
Most of the time, we can only go off our prior knowledge of what similar things would do in that situation (ie: putting fire near your eye is bad and can result in blindness), and label the questionable circumstance as so.
I feel that, for the sake of the concept of this pasta (which I happen to think is decent), we give smaller details like that the benefit of the doubt, and focus on the bigger picture and the more prevalent issues. ^^